Prepare for the FREEDOMIPMONEY - HALL OF SHAME

In a few months with electronic business and with electronic money currency exchange I found people of the worst class, by decision or by ocassion dedicated to exploit others, hmmm maybe asking them for shame will be futile, but at least the rest of the world may be aware or them...

list being buit in a thread at exchange money place

http://www.exchangemoneyplace.com/e-currency-exchange/3602-someone-needs-mb-i-have-moneybookers-lowest-rate-possible.html

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CASE No. 1 - the worst

Name: Pislar Ciprian
Country: Romania
Amount Stolen: 180 USD
when: may 2009
method: AP to MB, AP reversed
nick at EMP: none known
nicks on the net: cipu_2005, cipry
email adresses: "Cipry" , "Pislar Ciprian" ,
ewallet adresses:

tricks: send money from a stolen / fictional / prepaid credit card
tricks: register in Alertpay as a woman from Australia
tricks: get an .au email address

more about him:
social networks - communities
myLot - cipu_2005
MastersCash.3xforum.ro - castigati bani pe net reali si legali / Profil cipu_2005


industry: PTC

procedure: locate you in the ymsn and press you to get your AP email account to send you the money
once the money is sent he will give you the destination address on MB.
quick chat with abbreviatures as you can expect from somebody about 20 years old or less


Quote:from Pislar Ciprian
to freedomipmoney@gmail.com
date 4 de mayo de 2009 09:21
subject READY TO MAKE THE DEAL

Hello
I am ready to make the transaction, i have 207$ into my alertpay account and i am ready to make the deal
When you enter online on yahoo messenger please give me a BUZZ
Thanx


THE TIPICAL PM MESSAGES YOU RECEIVE FROM SCAMMERS

Berto
Banned Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 12
Successful Trades: (2)

Re: LR 2 MB
Quote:Originally Posted by freedomipmoney
saw you on http://www.exchangemoneyplace.com/e-...html#post18350

do you still have the LR? i have 50 MB
tell me your offer, and start business, if succesfull can make more.

Thanks


Hello,

yes i can still exchange your mb to lr, please send me your yahoo if you have.

best regards

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Amount Stolen: 5.00 USD
target emails:
Quote:Originally Posted by BlinkJet
Alright, send me the money on MB to justin@thewebworld.org

BlinkJet
Banned Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 25
Successful Trades: (2)

Moneybookers exchange
Hello,

I saw your thread somewhere around here. So I was gonna ask, how much are you willing to start with first? I've done 3 successful trades or just 2 within the recent the months. Check my iTrader for my trades.

I have paypal, but need MB. My paypal is verified. So no worries.


Thanks alot!

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shpanac
NOT yet banned but soon...
Junior Member Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 0
Successful Trades: (0)

intrested in moneybookers
Hi
I saw your post and I am intrested in do you change your moneybookers for alertpay, I have a lot too so we can make a deal, first with smaller amount off course.
Thanks bro, you can contact me on jasmin07ba@hotmail.com

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zomba
Banned Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 34
Successful Trades: (5)

Re: pp to mb
they charged back a lot of transaction because i was scammed about 1.500$ till now from b2b. as you can see my paypal account isn't new and the source of the money legal.

as paypal also chargedback transactions which i made with the fraudulent money this takes my whole day.
Quote:Originally Posted by freedomipmoney
hey my PM inbox is full

did you sent it now?
please email me with the receipt / transaction number

sorry if i am delayed, was 3 days out of the site,
and this guy blinkjet seems to have scammed me and others.

Have you been scammed or victim or fraud anytime? dont be silent these sites will help you.

it started all with an old friend called moneybookers
since i received a fake email last week
i was fetching "moneybookers scam" an found interesting links

watch the name
http://www.ripoffreport.com/
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Auto-Dealers/Moneybookers/moneybookers-scam-auto-dealin-q9756.htm

Oh poor victims
http://www.scamvictimsunited.com/
http://www.scamvictimsunited.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2864
on purpose what is exactly a craiglist?

Top 10 Questions of the (electronic merchant) life

• THEY ARE MORE THAN THEN, BUT DROPPING THE FIRST THREE

1. A question of background about payment gateways, if VISA and MASTERCARD are worldwide accepted and renowned, and they work fine, why don’t they have a method for Money collect, or a way for payment receipt for individuals or small business? Why do they get in partnership with paypal, Moneybookers, alertpay and so on if the could treat the customer directly, and deal with the bank directly too?
2. http://www.ecommerce-journal.com/forum?c=showthread&ThreadID=25868 - Which companies can offer me a whole, front to end e-commerce solution in the United States (USA) that is online store, SEO/SEM, payment gateway (a debit card should be great too) without the need of living or being a citizen of the USA? Any experience here about that?
3. Which rules must be observed with the electronic payment systems for getting no headaches (payment reversals, frozen funds / accounts, when I sell only services, or e-content like e-books?

moneybookers accounts frozen or blocked - the UK FSA could help!

Quoting post #49 from
http://www.justmakemoneyonline.com/2007/12/29/moneybookers-bank-transfer-withdrawal-problem/

Angeleyes77 07.04.09 at 7:01 pm

Hi, I have also been having problems with my Moneybookers account being locked. I have just sent them an email to ask why my account is locked. I will wait and see what happens then if I don’t receive a satisfactory response I will ask to proceed through their internal complaints procedure. Once that has been exhausted and I either have their final response within 8 weeks and a satisfactory resolution, or I don’t and I will refer my complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service.

To those of you who do not live in the UK and are wondering how you are going to obtain any help in getting your money back, I can confirm that the Financial Ombudsman Service will deal with your complaint regardless of whether you reside in the UK or not. They are there to arbitrate between UK companies regulated by the Financial Services Authority and their customers, and this is the case even if you are not a UK resident.

You have to go through the firm’s internal complaints procedure first, in which they have 8 weeks to respond to you or provide you with a final response. After that you have the right to refer your complaint to the Financial Ombudsman Service.

In the FSA register the contact name for their complaints department is Kamelia Gankova, the address is 10-11 Charterhouse Square, London, EC1M 6EH, contact tel number: 44 020 7608 8460 , fax number: 44 020 7608 1603.

When you contact their complaints department, tell them that you want to raise an official complaint about the way in which you have been treated by Moneybookers, and the problems you have experienced in accessing your funds. Under UK law, they have to accept a complaint over the telephone, via email, fax or in writing. You should receive an acknowledgement of your complaint within 5 working days and should expect to be kept updated regularly. If at the end of the 8 weeks you still haven’t received a resolution, or you have received a response that you are still unhappy with, you can refer to FOS.

The more people that go down this route the better it will be for all of us. Please don’t be put off from complaining to FOS just because you are not resident in the UK.

How do I know all this you ask? I work in a complaint handling unit within one of Britain’s largest banks, and I deal with FOS every working day.

Sending money to USA

Found a very complete site about this.

http://www.sendmoneyhome.org/money-transfers/sending_money_to_usa.php

aparts...

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moneybookers finally welcome on EBAY!

SEE THIS LINK

http://www.moneybookers.com/partners/ebay/us/#ratecard

http://ebay.about.com/b/2009/02/05/ebay-news-moneybookers-paymate-propay.htm

did ebay not worry about lost the monopoly?
or want to seem democratic with hidden treats?
or just when this payment methods grow, will be purchased by paypal?

interesting days!

Some words of digital money wiseness

I took this info from http://www.exchangemoneyplace.com/exchangemoneyplace-com/2278-what-you-should-know-about-e-currency-exchange.html

And I paste it here because they are very basic rules that are a must!

Before registering to EMP you should know:
List of payment processors what offering refunds and chargebacks:

PAYPAL - ALERTPAY

If you are receiving paypal or alertpay you should know what:
- Accept payment only from verified paypal or alertpay account.- Never send non-refundable e-currency instant!,wait minimum 48 hours,this is very important.- Never trade big amount for first deal,you can start with 10-20 $- Check member ip address and confirm what member is in same location from where you receiving payment.
List of payment processors what not refund money,and transfers are final:

WEBMONEY - PERFECT MONEY
MONEYBOOKERS - LIBERTY RESERVE
EVOWALLET - STRICTPAY

- When you receiving any of them you can be sure what your money will stay in your account without any chargebacks or refunds.- When you trading any of this 6 payment processors you can do instant exchange! __________________If you receive Paypal don't send any LR,WMZ,MB,AP in less than 24 hours,it is very important ! Don't be victim of fraud.